“An Emotional Guidebook”: Hovvdy Dwell in the Depths of ‘True Love’ on Intimate & Vulnerable 4th Album

Hovvdy © Pooneh Ghana
Hovvdy © Pooneh Ghana
Hovvdy’s Charlie Martin and Will Taylor speak with Atwood Magazine about the concept of (their new album) ‘True Love,’ working with producer Andrew Sarlo, playing guitar in exclusively open tuning, and writing their most honest, vulnerable, and personal record yet.
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True love comes with a lot of food for thought – some good, and some bad (though hopefully more good, in this case). It’s a weighted phrase with a lot to offer and express, and as with any massive umbrella terms, it takes considerable unpacking to understand what true love means to any one person.

To their credit, Hovvdy’s Charlie Martin and Will Taylor have had many reasons and plenty of time to think about a concept like true love over recent years: Both got married since the release of their band’s last LP, and Taylor and his wife recently welcomed a son into their family. Love has hung heavy in the air for Hovvdy’s two members of late, and so it’s no surprise that it would be such a dominant presence and play such a prominent role on their new album.

Be forewarned, this is no early Beatles bubblegum record: A beautiful, hazy daydream, Hovvdy’s warm and wondrous True Love explores love and connection through an intimate and vulnerable lens. It’s a raw, reflective album full of the band’s signature hushed indie pop sounds and heartfelt, poignant sentiments that dwell in deep emotional depths.

True Love - Hovvdy
True Love – Hovvdy
Muster up your strength
Be okay with not changing things
In my head what you think much worse
I blew it up
We could get back together
Hang out, let go of everything
We could get back together
Hang out, in joy
In another world I’m with you
You said it just happened to be this way
Let it unwind
I’ve got time to spend
Fall into place in the end
– “Joy,” Hovvdy

Happiness and sorrow, celebration and mourning melt into one on Hovvdy’s most expansive, unfiltered, and open offering yet. Released October 1, 2021 via Grand Jury Music, True Love is heavy, yet welcoming: The kind of subdued cinema you’d be happy to play all day long, if only for the experience of its sweet highs and stirring lows. The follow-up to 2019’s third album Heavy Lifter finds Hovvdy once again working with producer Andrew Sarlo (Bon Iver, Big Thief), whom the band lovingly describe as “a great emotional coach.”

“He’s a great facilitator just in the studio,” Charlie Martin says of Sarlo. “He really encourages vulnerability and collaboration and really just laying it all out there, and I think we were both really inspired and compelled to do that, and then sonically, he brings the tension. I think that a lot of these songs are very sweet and earnest and super heartfelt, and we were always experimenting with his equipment, or watching him experiment with his equipment to create the dissonance and that kind of ambient push and pull in a song.”

Took my medicine I’m sorry
If I woke you up
With my breathing, I was wheezing
It’s a problem
When I was a kid
A guinea pig for some drug
All the doctors’ favorite patient
Their chosen one
Could never see you again
But I’ll try
My hardest to be there
Right by your side
– “GSM,” Hovvdy

Hovvdy © Adam Alonzo
Hovvdy © Adam Alonzo

True Love is far and away Hovvdy’s most vulnerable and cathartic offering to date, finding both Martin and Taylor – who share instrumental and songwriting duties, and “bring an equal share of songs to the project” – diving deeper into themselves than ever before. Rather than set out to write songs about romance, family, and friendship, Hovvdy explain that True Love came about quite naturally: It’s a product of where both members are at in their lives.

Hovvdy credit title track “True Love,” a radiant embrace of the present brimming with sweet guitars and tender harmonies, as paving the way for the rest of the album. Like an inspirational blueprint, the song gave them a sense of purpose and drive, finding them reveling in (and reeling through) a brighter sonic space.

“For each Hovvdy record there’s always been a song that kinda shocks my system, kinda jolts me into a brand new and inspired place. This was definitely that song for me,” Martin previously said of the title track. “I remember writing it and feeling a rush of excitement — crying a lot, honestly. It feels so good to express love and appreciation when you really mean it, but it’s hard to feel worthy of love, of something so rare, and all we can do is try to measure up — that’s what that last part [“Do you believe what I said / That I am the man I say I am?]  is all about.”

In classic Hovvdy form, nothing comes as easily as it seems – and for the Texan duo, that means the love in their lives gets a thorough dissection: True Love feels musically freeing, yet it is nonetheless intensely ruminative, introspective, and emotionally nuanced. Beyond the title track alone, several of the album’s songs embody these qualities, finding the band reckoning with ideas of one’s value and belonging; of connecting on a deeper level with someone else; of being understood; and of being deserving of love, and all that a loving relationship entails. Their music isn’t necessarily distressed – in fact, many moments feel hopeful – but one can find moments of distress, doubt, nostalgia, and longing throughout the album’s run.

Sometimes true love means acknowledging or accepting loss – the loss of a friend, a partner, or of innocence itself – and Hovvdy don’t shy away from those emotions. Whether they’re lost down memory lane, wondering about the future, or enveloped in the present, Martin and Taylor spill their hearts and souls in an immersive, melodically rich outpouring of passionate self-expression.

Can’t outrun our history
Always comin’ around again
Pretend we didn’t change a thing
Won’t you come around again
Bright blue jacket, local mascot on it
Attitude, you’re not having any of it
You’re the only one
Only one
Told you wrong, same mistake
Thrown around again
Getting closer to feeling great
So we go around again
Memory won’t let me take a picture
Turn to me and tell me, “You’ll remember”
You’re the only one
Only one
– “Around Again,” Hovvdy

“This collection of songs feels to us like a return to form, writing and recording songs for ourselves and loved ones,” the pair share. “Spending less energy consumed with how people may respond freed us up to put our efforts into creating an honest, heartfelt album that spans a range of sonic landscapes, yet feels like a singular breath.”

Taylor and Martin, who recorded the album together in what they would readily describe as less-than-ideal circumstances during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020, are quick to share how much True Love‘s songs actually mean to them.

“To be honest, every song on this record from me was… The writing of it was more of a cathartic teary-eyed experience than what I’ve experienced,” Martin reflects. “Every song, the process of writing it was so… It hit heavier than I’ve ever experienced, and I guess I trust that that comes across…  That’s always our goal, is to cover a wide range sonically and emotionally without [it being challenging].”

Do you misunderstand what it looks like on my side
I hope I’m not wrong
Do you misinterpret what it looks like on my side
I am on your side after all
I love my nephew Rex
My mama called me crying
Her son is a father
I’m fighting hard I’m all in
Pray for all my friends
Y’all know how long it’s been
My father is a son
I’ve been running
It’s a long run
– “Hope,” Hovvdy

True Love is an album full of space, substance, and raw feeling.

It’s Hovvdy at their absolute best, embracing the very qualities that make them human and the traits that make their music so catchy and visceral at once. Whereas true love the concept might easily overwhelm us, True Love the album is endlessly delightful: An enchanting, relaxing album that proves both fun and fulfilling – a real joy throughout.

Whether you’re drawn to toward the weight or the warmth of these spellbinding songs, Hovvdy have without a doubt outdone themselves, delivering a special journey for all. The duo spoke to Atwood Magazine about the concept of true love, working with Andrew Sarlo, playing guitar in open tuning, and writing their most honest, vulnerable, and personal album yet. Feel the heat of True Love, out now, and dive into this beautiful album in our intimate interview below!

I know it’s a long way
We could drive all day
They say patience is always worth it
Singing in the backyard
Felt I had a fresh start
Lift you up because you deserve it
Find a new normal
We’ll be alright
Take it a step at a time
Wait for the light to change
Your mind
I’ll be right here
Walking by your side babe
Wait for the light change
I never wanna make you sad
Lift you up baby you deserve it
Mister heavy lifter be your friend
Upside down world ruining our day again
– “I Never Wanna Make You Sad,” Hovvdy

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Atwood Magazine: Charlie and Will, congratulations on this upcoming album. Can you share a little about the story behind True Love?

Charlie Martin: Absolutely. It really just came together a lot of our records. Just WeChat a batch of songs, and I think the title track was the first one that I wrote that felt like a clean step forward into the new project, and then once we had everything there together, we both saw this common thread in all the songs, kind of exploring different relationships and a lot of it centering on this concept of love and yeah, honestly it’s pretty clear-cut message.

This will be your fourth album in as many years. How do you feel you two have grown or evolved in this relatively short period of time?

Will Taylor: I think our goals have shifted, for sure. In the beginning, we were doing it for ourselves and our friends and then as it went on, trying to expand that and make music for more people, and then musically, I feel like this is a little bit of a return to our truest form. Kind of just strip back and try to find the most emotional songs and songs that felt like they said the most. Just our ability to do that and there’s a little bit more confident song writing and a little bit more confident in our production ideas and stuff like that. So just a little bit of everything kinda led us here it feels like.

Charlie Martin: Yeah. I think in the beginning… Hovvdy was both of our first, pretty much our first songwriting project, especially for me, so I feel like essentially, we’re four records into just the craft of songwriting, and if anything, I think we’re just better at leaning into our strengths, whereas a lot of the songs from the first record are hard for me to sing ’cause I was just playing in a dumb, super low tuning that my voice didn’t sound that great in. So just small things like that even. A lot of small lessons, that we’ve learned over the years, compiling together.

Many other bands take years between their albums; to what do you attribute your relatively prolific output?

Charlie Martin: Honestly, just two minds together. We both write songs and bring a lot of stuff to the project, so it’s pretty easy for us to come up with 10 to 12 really exciting songs that feel like a record, and I think maybe there’s more pressure when it’s just one song writer in a project, but with us, it comes together pretty quickly, pretty organically. It’s not really something we have to stretch.

Hovvdy © Pooneh Ghana
Hovvdy © Pooneh Ghana

True love is such a buzz word for many people. Out of curiosity, how did you guys end up choosing this title? We talked a little bit about how it was that song that kind of brought it out. What does the term, “True Love” really mean to you?

Charlie Martin: For me with that, it started with this song and I… Usually, when I’m naming a song, I go to the lyrics and just look for the word that feels like it encapsulates the feeling of the song, but with “True Love”, that’s not actually a lyric in the song, it just felt… It was kind of like a no-brainer. I think I titled the song the first day I had it and then I probably half-jokingly suggested it as a record name to Will and it’s kind of hard to deny that the visual appeal of it, but it did seem like maybe ridiculously bold as an album title but it just kinda stuck.

I love that. What was your vision going into the record? Did it change over the course of recording the whole album?

Will Taylor: We had our first session with Andrew Sarlo, who produced the album last year or maybe 2019, and we did songs that kinda felt more electronic, we brought in more stems and worked with more beats. That’s kind of a funny word but… And then we kind of fully expected that to continue with this new album, we would return to work with Sarlo for the record and it just kinda turned out through his encouragement and through just our limitations on gear that we… He challenged us to find the most emotionally felt songs, most heartfelt songs, songs that meant the most to us, no filler-type stuff. And I think we just naturally kinda landed where we were, with an acoustic guitar and then just built around that, whereas in the past it’s not always how we’ve done it, but I think that it probably was the most comfortable way for us to do it. So we just kinda wanted to not waste any time fiddling around and we just stemmed the songs on an acoustic guitar and then tried to go from there.

In my song, the way it rings
Reaching out to everything
Full of love, full of hate
Well maybe something I can’t place
Lay my joy down with my pain
Feel the sun and chase the rain
Am I strong enough for two?
Can I love me like I love you?
I gotta ask myself all the time
Where do I go wrong in my mind?
You ask me why?
And I don’t know
I don’t
– “Hue,” Hovvdy

You guys have had a lot of good things to say about Andrew Sarlo and his work. Do you feel like you can hear him on this album and your last album? What's the impact, from a listener's perspective, of Andrew Sarlo being in the room with the two of you?

Charlie Martin: More than anything, he was just a great emotional coach. He’s a great facilitator just in the studio. He really encourages vulnerability and collaboration and really just laying it all out there, and I think we were both really inspired and compelled to do that, and then sonically, he brings the tension. I think that a lot of these songs are very sweet and earnest and super heartfelt, and he was always like… We were always experimenting with his equipment, or watching him experiment with his equipment, to create the dissonance and that kind of ambient push and pull in a song. So yeah, all the performance stuff is pretty much us, but a lot of time there’s this kind of bubbling presence that he would be creating.

Will Taylor: Yeah. And just being able to mix it well. It’s hard to not hear it because we know what we’re capable of with mixing, which… It’s not nothing, and we’ve gotten better over the years, for sure, at that. But just to be able to scientifically carve out space for everything is really good and I can’t ignore it now.

One of the things that's obviously a defining feature in your music is kind of this DIY aesthetic, right? This is certainly one of your most built up records, and yet at the same time, it kind of feels... like a daydream. The entire thing is one big, beautiful daydream. Can you speak to your experience listening back to the album as a whole, what it evokes for you?

Charlie Martin: Yeah, I think we’ve just… We would not have made the record with Sarlo if we felt like he wasn’t genuinely a fan of what we do. So yeah, there never was any sort of worry that we would lose the texture or the character of what defines the music that we make. If anything, we were just expanding that. Hoping to expand that space, which I think is maybe what you’re describing, this sort of dream-like… Yeah, I would probably never have guessed we would make a song that sounds like “Joy”. To me, that’s a pretty dreamy one that was really fun, kind of open canvas for us to play with in the studio and yeah, I’m glad it feels like a daydream. [laughter]

On my last call, as I go off
If it rings, you know it’s me
Talking words can’t tell you
How I miss you
Will you let me sing
Used to visit on the weekend
TN plate on the highway
Stay home evenings
One bottle in the freezer
Lights go out in this town
My heart swim in the sound
– “One Bottle,” Hovvdy

It's fun! It's really good music that hits the moment – not only the time of year as the summer goes into the fall, but also just this space that we've been in throughout the pandemic. It's nice to have something to escape into, and to embrace within that escape. I know you said before that the title track jolted this album into existence; I was wondering if you could speak more to the impact that writing “True Love” had on the songs that came after it.

Charlie Martin: Yeah, really when I said that, I was speaking more for myself and kind of we each bring an equal share of songs to the project, and then I guess it was sort of… And this happens a lot with our records where we come together to make the project and we see this kind of common thread and we kind of chase the middle ground, but I also think we were like… The concept of ‘True Love’ it’s such a wide [net to] cast. It’s a big umbrella term to describe the core of many different types of relationships, and so I think we both just happened to be digging into those concepts at the same time.

It just so happened that the two you were at similar points in your life and your relationship at that point, where you could both explore it openly and freely.

Charlie Martin: Yeah. Will had a kid, so it’s just like… That’s a whole different level.

That's wonderful! Congratulations Will.

Will Taylor: Thank you!

I personally love some of the extremely lo-fi moments on this record. Like the incredible vulnerability displayed in “Lake June.” Was it hard to just sing the words, “I love you so much,” straight like that?

Will Taylor: That’s a good question. The melody is kinda tricked up so it kind of distracts me from what I’m saying, maybe but yeah, I’m really proud of that moment on the record. I feel like it’s a fun little breath, and musically, I felt like Andrew and Charlie helped me get to a very calming, yet slightly dizzy point. Yeah. I think it’s a great moment, and lyrically, I usually don’t have a problem saying something that’s really simple, ’cause usually, it’s not convoluted in my head at that point.

Charlie Martin: Yeah I think it speaks to the head space we were both in and also just being in the room with Sarlo, none of us gave a second thought to some of the very straightforward lyrics on the record. If there was like… It was a very open environment and you genuinely felt comfortable and inspired to communicate as straightforward as possible, and as long… Straight from the heart and felt true, that was the right decision.

Where did we go?
You’re on the run
How did you know
The time had come?
All in, moving backward
At the wake of your first word
Dizzy at the table
So dazed at your angle
Cold night at Lake June
My camera on full zoom
Race you down Hatley
One, two, two, three
I love you so
I love you so much
I love you so
I love you so much

I think about writing lyrics as kind of a balance between straightforward storytelling and poetry. And trying to find that right balance for whatever you're trying to convey, and this one, this entire record really, it's very direct. There isn't any need for flowery language or abstract metaphor; you're really honing in on what you're talking about, and it's very nice to hear.

Will Taylor: Great. Thank you.

You guys most recently released the single “Around Again” and “Junior Day League.” I was wondering if you could share a little bit about these two songs.

Will Taylor: Yeah. “Around Again” was recorded as… Sorry! Was demoed as the kind of country-dealing song with just kind of straight forward attitude, and I feel like we did a good job with that. We had some hiccups along the way trying to make it sound like Hovvdy ’cause when we first started, it didn’t really sound like Hovvdy. It was a lot of picking acoustic guitar and then we go back to the drawing board and added some down strum, kinda more lo-fi stuff and it started to sound like us.

And lyrically, pretty simple, just about resilience within a relationship or in a relationship with yourself. And then “Junior Day League” is a fun one. It was the last I wrote for the album and I was excited ’cause we didn’t have a lot of up-tempo but chill songs. We either had our chill songs, then our up-tempo ones. I feel like “Joy” kinda stayed into that chill but up-tempo vibe. I was happy to… We were happy to have that vibe and that song’s warm and there’s isn’t any electric guitar, as I tried to add, Sarlo would just pull them back so it was just all… It ended up being all acoustics, which I’m thankful for now ’cause it doesn’t hurt my ears. Yeah, those two songs were fun and “Junior Day League” specifically, I hadn’t really realized that I really… I liked all the songs obviously, but then when it was released, I kinda had a new moment with it and it might become my most proud moment for me on the album. Yeah.

Low country, high speed
Flag on a mailer, cross on a trailer
Junior day league
Billboard reads, “Have a dream”
Still driving upstate
Cracked like a window, told you how I feel
Sharpen my teeth
Lights on a string, you and me
And if I wasn’t so uptight
You’d probably be by my side
Don’t think I’ll make it in time
I’m always changing my mind
Find myself in a reverie
How you move so patiently
Feel your light fade into me
Turn into a memory

That's actually a good segue into the next question I was about to ask. What is each of your favorite song that you wrote, and also what is your favorite song that the other guy wrote?

Will Taylor: It does change and it’ll probably change again. “True Love” is obviously a really fun one, and the more we play, when we play at Lives, it’s really fun. It’s hard not to say that one. But “Hope” or “Joy” would probably be one of my… A close battle for me for my fave of Charles. And I think “Lake June” on a certain day or “Hue” on another day or “Junior Day League” for me.

Charlie Martin: Yeah, my fave Will song is probably “Lake June”. He’s really good at making a slow song; slow, soft song that makes you wanna mush. I can really turn up to that song, and probably most proud moment for me is “Blindsided” just one of the most vulnerable, detail-oriented songs I’ve ever written, and I’m proud of that one.

Magnolia tree
You said you could see you in me
I was surprised
Could’ve used you in my life but you were blind
(Could’ve used you in my life but)
You were blind, blind
Never really met my friends
Knew each other from a distance
Ask about him, I miss him
Think about it, I’ll miss it
Rode our bikes to the Tom Thumb
Hot summers where I come from
Cold Bud in a solo cup
“Fresh Air” on the radio
In the shade of the back porch
Mama said she’s mad at you
After dark on the hi-fi
Is it gonna be alright?
Crank it up to “Everlong”
Always was your favorite song
Air drums in the living room
Early memories of you

That's awesome. Yeah. I've been thinking about how different this album is from Heavy Lifter – it's been a very long two years since that album was released. A lot has happened. Did the pandemic have any kind of eye-opening or back to basics impact for you guys, or was it just the natural course of events that brought you here?

Will Taylor: I think there were a number of things that kind of led us to the point of making the album that we did, and some of that is the limitations of space and musical equipment and we’re in a small room and didn’t have very much ’cause we were in Los Angeles, couldn’t travel with all of our gear, or whatever. So there’s some limitations that kind of led us to where we went with it. Sorry. I kinda lost my train there.

Charlie Martin: I mean, I just think for me and probably for both of us, just really leaning into songwriting as therapy and just needing it more than ever, and I think that that comes through on the record. It’s really not a pandemic-themed record but I think that… Getting back to the core of why we make music and we want to share it and share the love, like that going through this literally, it’s like the experience of the pandemic is something everyone experienced and none of us have gone through something like that until now. And I think it was just really realizing that if I need this this bad, maybe everyone else does too.

Will Taylor: I can’t remember if we mentioned this with you or not, but we did write all the songs last year. Usually songs were being pulled from over a few years of time or whatever, maybe not always but these songs were kind of almost immediately written and then recorded, which is a unique element to this album.

Maybe that's part of what helps it all sound like one cohesive experience.

Will Taylor: Right, for sure.

Charlie Martin: Right.

You mentioned earlier about limitations. Surely, your limitations could be lifted or expanded if you wanted them to be. Is part of what defines your band that you embrace these limitations?

Charlie Martin: Yeah – I mean, yes and no. A good example for me is, I only know how to play guitar in the open tuning, and I’ve always said… Everyone around me is always encouraging me to learn standard or something, and my thing is I’ll change when I run out of ideas in this tuning. So yeah, in that way, that limitation is something that I really lean into. But in terms of making the record, I mean, we did it in a garage size, a one car garage size studio and with a tiny drum kit, an upright piano, two acoustic guitars.

Will Taylor: Yeah, I mean, the limitations were actually real and not self-imposed. It took… The creativeness of Andrew Sarlo made it sound like it’s not that way but truly, we were in a really small room and with just a few instruments and then we went home and maybe added some stuff when we got back to our zones with all our gear. But really I mean, most of the album is just made with the guitar, the piano and my bass.

Charlie Martin: Yeah and it’s really just about… And we’ve always been… I think it’s always been the core of the project or our approach is more focused on layering and chemistry and building an emotionally ripe sound with simple components, versus shredding or something or complicated music. So yeah, I think we’re just still in love with that approach.

Based on your description, I think I have renewed respect and appreciation of what you were able to accomplish within that setting. That doesn't sound like the easiest way to make music, let alone to be creative, and so to know what you were able to bring to life given those circumstances is pretty special.

Charlie Martin: Thanks.

Will Taylor: Thank you very much.

Of course. That's interesting about open tuning, by the way. I learned open tuning once-upon-a-time so that I could play Led Zeppelin's “The Rain Song” and the Black Crowes’ “She Talks To Angels,” but I definitely didn't stay in the tuning. How did it come about that you learned – and stayed in – open tuning?

Charlie Martin: I grew up playing piano and drums and I think for a piano player, everything is out in front of you and my friends, always my brother played guitar and I would pick it up and it just hurt. It felt just super hard. I never had any interest in trying it until I got interested in song-writing and realized that I liked… I felt more expressive with an acoustic guitar than I did with a piano. But… And it wasn’t until I learned that I could just tune to an open tuning and play the three chords that I needed to play to write a song. Honestly, it was just way easier and way more expressive and still now, I’m learning new voicings and new chords and yeah, and also I write a lot of the songs on piano and it’s always fun to transpose those to guitar, just using a Capo.

You just change the key you’re in and yeah, I don’t know. Will knows how to play standard and started out mostly in standard but now he writes, I feel at least half of his songs, in open tuning as well. So it’s just become… That sort of resonance that you get in an open tuning, and it has a real melancholic overtone that I think has become a big part of our sound.

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Hovvdy © Pooneh Ghana

I respect that! As we close, what do you hope listeners take away from True Love, and what did you two take away from creating it and now putting it out?

Will Taylor: I guess I would hope that people will feel a connection or some type of encouragement. Like Charlie said, it was good for us to make so I hope it’s good for you to listen to. Just… Simply that, just some type of… I mean really, what’s fun about it is that some of these songs… A lot of our albums really are songs that I feel a certain way that may or may not mean something different, like a happy song wrapped in a sad packaging or whatever. [chuckle] So just an emotional guidebook. I mean, I don’t know. Something they can cling on to and feel all the things that they need to feel, or didn’t know they needed to. Also just enjoy it.

Charlie Martin: To be honest, every song on this record from me was… The writing of it was more of a cathartic teary-eyed experience than what I’ve experienced. Every song, the process of writing it was so… It hit heavier than I’ve ever experienced, and I guess I trust that that comes across and it also was really exciting to me that you listen to it and you find it to be very pleasant and easy to listen to. So that’s always our goal. Is to cover a wide range sonically and emotionally without…

Will Taylor: It being challenging.

Charlie Martin: Yeah, without being terribly demanding.

I will always look up to you
Often laugh about your smile
Even though it’s hard to
I will surely move along
Kind of how it’s always been
Why are you so far away?
Breaking off or giving in
Sometimes I just hide away
I feel it, I feel it
Kind of how it’s always been
Why are you so far away?
Breaking off or giving in
Sometimes I just hide away
– “Sometimes,” Hovvdy

Like I said, I would probably call it a beautiful hazy daydream. It really is a very special listen and I'm grateful that I got to listen to it this summer and during this time. One thing I always like to ask folks at the end, just the interest of paying it forward, are there any artists that you guys have been listening to right now that you're really into, that you would recommend others also check out?

Charlie Martin: I always think about this pocket of bands in Denton, Texas. There’s three projects that all share members; there’s Chrisman, there’s Dead Sullivan, this project called Macheo, and also Teethe. Honestly, the most underrated, focused focus group. It’s really insane. It’s just this tiny scene in Denton with five bands that completely blow my mind, and they’re extremely underrated. Texas forever.

Thank you guys so much for taking the time out today to speak, and congratulations upon True Love's release!

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